Episodes like today make me understand that some people actually do vote UDC here.
NH was minding his bizness in H&M today waiting in line when the dog of the couple waiting behind him started nosing around in the grocery bag.
He said nicely (and keep in mind NH looks like a yuppie to boot), “Could you please watch your dog, he’s in my grocery bag.”
What did the dude say? This is the exact effing quote: “What is your problem man, do you want a coup de boule?” As in, because my husband asked him nicely to make sure his dog stayed out of our fruits and veg, the dude automatically asked him if he wanted to fight and made a reference to Zidane. “Coup de boule” is almost exclusively used these days in reference to the unfortunate Zidane incident, thus there was a direct connotation to “angry Arab (sic) male.” So the dude automatically got defensive and raised his voice.
NH goes on nicely, “No, for hygiene reasons I just don’t want your dog on my vegetables and would like some respect for my personal space.”
Then the girlfriend starts in, “What is your problem, it not like it’s a Rottweiler, and….(hold on folks, this is a good one)… we’re not in Kabul here.” Can you believe it?
So then NH raises his voice and says, “One, there is a law in Geneva about how dogs have to be muzzled, and two Kabul has nothing to do with anything. All I want is for your dog to stay out of my grocery bag.”
Dude says some other wanna-fight type stuff, asks if the police need to be called, and NH says, “Ok, let’s call the police then”…the dude, obviously coming to the slow realization of who he was messing with, walks out of the store.
The chick keeps on with some blah blah but NH checks out and moves on. Only regret is that something should have been said to her about her irrelevant racist commentary, but still. No one in the store said anything at the time, but once the dude walked out a couple people came up to NH and told him he was right for standing up for himself and right for feeling that way about the dog.
The whole exchange was a discussion that should have never happened. What was the point of even mentioning headbutts and Kabul? Where in the heck did that come from?
Finally, since unfortunately some people have the incurable illness of racism that time has not healed, the real question for today is this: is it too much to freakin ask for people to watch their dogs? On the tram in Zurich once I had this lady’s Labrador jump on me. I was like, “Can you watch your dog?!” (yes, there I was mean about it) and she was like, “Oh he isn’t mean.” That’s the normal line here. Especially in Geneva with people’s little poodles and such. Their dogs are all over you in the tram and they are like, “Oh but he doesn’t bite”…I don’t care if your dog bites or not, I don’t want your dog on me. I think it is normal to expect respect of my personal space.
Would you let your kid dig in my groceries? Would you let your kid give me a big old hug? I don’t think so. So why does everyone in this country think their dogs can do whatever the heck they want? What the heck is the problem with my husband asking someone NICELY to hold on to their dog? How can someone of the Muslim persuasion ask people to hold on to their freakin dogs without it turning into a discussion about Gaza? What if NH was “white”? Would this conversation have happened?
There are laws in Geneva about dogs in public establishments. Most grocery stores don’t allow dogs in principle, so it can be reasonably assumed that there is a food and hygiene issue there. There are laws in Geneva about dogs being muzzled. All Nice Husband was asking for was this couple to respect not only his rights as a private citizen to a personal space but also the laws of the city in which the episode happened. Instead, they had to talk about headbutts and Kabul and somehow make it his problem. In-efffing-credible. I’m gobsmacked.
Anyway I am proud of NH for opening his mouth.
Tags : look how the swissies are livin, racists, stupid stuff, coup de boule
21 juin 2008 à 9:09
This is really terrible, I totally know how you feel now.. Some people are just racist even if they try to hide it. In some situations, nothing stops them to show it.
21 juin 2008 à 10:49
As-Salaamu ‘alaikum,
I was talking to a former niqaabi sister in east London the other day and she told me she’d had dogs set on her by some white trash yobs in Walthamstow, which I had thought was a Muslim haven (it was, for a while, where a lot of sisters went to buy their niqaabs and other hijab needs until the shop that sold them closed). I think these same goons are the ones who attack anyone who looks different, be they Goths, niqabis or orthodox Jews, but it doesn’t make it any easier. They can carry their weapons - staffies or pit bulls or whatever - and not bother to control them, but decent people can’t carry a knife which can’t stab people unless we make it do so.
And yeah, I’ve written before about how dog owners think their mutts should be allowed to run around and thrust itself into other people’s bits including the backsides of passing menstruating women. When you complain they say it won’t hurt you or blame you, and they let them crap on the pavements as well. I think anyone caught letting their dogs do these things should have them put down. A while back one local council in London proposed a local law that banned anyone letting dogs off leash except in a few specified areas, but they wimped out.
22 juin 2008 à 12:34
What an unbelievably idiotic episode. Good on your husband for maintaining his dignity and composure in the face of such vulgar foolishness.
22 juin 2008 à 2:07
I think it was good for him to stand up for himself. what’s even better is that he did it calmly. If he were to lose his cool he would have become the crazy dog hating terrorist to everyone in the store. Sometimes the best way to deal with idiots is to be completely almost annoyingly freakin nice.
I’m often times a pushover with idiots and I can kick myself later because some poeple totally deserve to be screamed at. Last year in florida I had a man grab my elbow and ask me how do I expect to get any sun dressed like that. I pulled my arm away and asked him not to touch me again. He definitely deserved more than that but I’m hypersensitive about the hijab around my family so I just shrugged it off.
Do you think they were nasty because you were standing there? I mean, would he have gotten this attitude without opressed hijabi wife standing next to him?
22 juin 2008 à 9:28
Good thing Milady wasn’t there. She’d have kicked the dog, no question.
22 juin 2008 à 4:29
As a dog owner, I’m even more offended when other dog owners don’t look out for their animals. I’m the person traipsing around with extra plastic bags and my dog on a leash, I don’t care that your dog is old and wouldn’t hurt a fly or doesn’t bite or whatever. It’s about respect and responsibility. And big points to NH for being civil. Don’t kick the dog, kick the stupid owner who confirmed his stereotype by acting like a moron. I hate stupid people. But I miss you!
23 juin 2008 à 6:13
Salam UAR
Actually I wasn’t next to him. I don’t think the incident would have happened if I were there. You see one of the unspoken rules of Swiss racism is that they automatically assume that if you talk around a veiled woman, your azz is going to get beat down. So had I been there the dude probably would not have said a word and instead gone home to his peeps and said, “This arab dude was bugging out about the dog and I would have said something but his wife was there and he would have beat me down for talking in front of his wife because Arabs {sic} don’t do that”.
23 juin 2008 à 6:58
I was out trolling my neighborhood the other night, and a guy that had to be at least 23514 years old stopped me to talk. He asked about the HOA and asked about the president, and said “It’s a BLACK MAN, isn’t it?” I was all, “Yeah, Anthony.” He said “How’d HE get that?” I was all “because people wanted him to be president?” He was all “I guess it’s because all the BLACK people moving in around here.” I was all “the 1960’s called, they want you back.”
23 juin 2008 à 9:48
interesting DP, thanks for clearing that up.
24 juin 2008 à 12:46
I loved my dog, but she would sometimes lick her butt for ten minutes straight, and the last thing in THE WORLD I would have wanted was for her to be sniffing around my grocery bag.
However, “kissy-face” was a different story altogether!